Workshop Minutes

City of Beacon Council Meeting Workshop

June 25, 2007

 

WORKSHOP

 

The Workshop Meeting for June 25, 2007 was held at the Municipal Center, One Municipal Place on June 25, 2007 at 7: 15 p.m. began at.

 

In attendance were:

Mayor Clara Lou Gould

Council Members Present were Lee Kyriacou (arrived at 8:25), Elizabeth Foster, Charles Kelly, Phil Shea, Steve Gold and Eleanor Thompson:

 

Also in attendance were:  City Administrator, Joseph Braun and City Attorney, Gerard Pisanelli

 

AGENDA

 

Police Department Budget:  Glenn Scofield, Captain

 

On 2/15 I drafted a memo to the City Administrator seeking permission to transfer funds from unused salary to compensate for usage of overtime.  As of now there is approximately $100,000.00 remaining in the police general overtime budget.  We used our budgeted overtime for the entire year because we were short on police officers.  We are still short six police officers and for that reason I am requesting that we transfer 1/2 of that unused salary in the amount of $148,990.00 to be transferred over to overtime.  The Captain's salary will remain at $56,000.00 in anticipation that the position will not be filled.  The detective's clerical line item for a secretary is still vacant and we are seeking a candidate for that.  $15,510.00.  The total of transfer will be $221,500.00.  The administration can contact me if they have any questions.

 

We are doing extensive background checks on candidates.  We have a police officer at the academy that graduates July 20.  As of the June 17, all shifts are at a minimum.  Vacation period is approaching.  Our efforts are continuing to get the best, qualified candidates that we can possibly get.  I hope you approve the transfer of funds

 

We have 33 police officers that are on the books.  We have been finding some problems with some of the applicants.  I was hoping that by now we would have the six positions filled.  It is more than just taking the Civil Service Test.  We do a comprehensive background check including a polygraph exam.  We are finding on applications criminal activities that they did not report and other information that would disqualify them.  We do not want to be stuck with this kind of problem.  This takes a long time to complete. 

 

I wish to reiterate that I wish the council would consider using countywide applicants.  These would be considered after we go to the City of Beacon preferred list.

 

Glenn Scofield:  Our officers are not focusing totally on traffic.  They are doing well-rounded police work.

Council Member Gold:  We should ask the county for help for festivals.

Glenn Scofield:  You cannot do that because you would be interfering with the union.  They cannot come into the city of Beacon or the city of Poughkeepsie.  The Sheriff's department will not work for activities such as the Strawberry Festival.

City Administrator, Joseph Braun:  I talked to Bill Wallace about the labor issue.  It’s been in the past that they said that it was union work in the past and you are giving away our work.  I agree with this attorney.

Council Member Kelly:  Labor is not guaranteed overtime.

Council Member Gold:  It just doesn’t seem right that we can’t do this.  I think we should get another opinion.  I think the announcement for the civil service test for police officers should be posted on Channel 22.

Council Member Thompson:  Does the PBA do anything to help officers' study for that exam?

Police representative from audience:  Yes there is a class and they pay for it.  That is part of career development.

 

Mayor Gould:  This will be put on the agenda for July 2, 2007 for the overtime as requested.

Council Member Foster:  I got a call from a resident and he hadn’t heard about the program.  I called Nickels Hardware who couldn't say enough about how wonderful the program is.  One business had a suggestion:  Send all the businesses a letter telling them about the program.

Council Member Gold:  There was a suggestion to have police cadet program.

Glenn Scofield:  They were disbanded because of liability issues.  Fishkill has a cadet program.  We tried it in 89 or 90 and it was dropped.

Council Member Thompson:  I was on a committee and they were looking at that.  The police dept would have to buy into that and I was also told that it would require overtime.

Council Member Kelly:  I am not opposed to overtime.  I think having a cadet program would be a plus.

Mayor Gould:  Regular officers are leary about having this for safety reasons and liability reasons.

Glenn Scofield:  It worked in Fishkill but that was in Fishkill.  The ages were 14 to 20.

Council Member Shea:  We should have our police dept straighten it out before we put this burden on them.

Council Member Kelly:  I appreciate your coming here and speaking to us.  There needs to be better communication between the city and the police.  A couple of things happened which lacked communication.  On any future events, we would appreciate it if you would keep us in mind.  We do support the police dept.

 

Motion to go to executive session at 7:40 p.m. Regarding Possible Litigation:  Council Member Gold.  Seconded:  Council Member Foster.  All voted in favor.  Motion carried.

 

Motion to end executive session at 8:08 p.m.:  Council Member Shea.  Seconded:  Council Member Kelly.  All voted in favor.  Motion carried.

 

Fire Dept.

 

-          Secretary Hours

-          Fire Boat (suggestion made to use Harbor Management fees or add a tax to help finance) Newburgh’s boat?

 

Speaker:  Chief Joseph:  Our secretary currently works between 12 - 15 hours a week. We can do with forty hours a week for a secretary.  Right now I have a tremendous amount of volunteers who handle medical duties.  We have to maintain medical records for thirty years after they leave the department, which is state mandated.  We do not clock hours in the fire department for volunteers.  They spend hours and hours on the incentive program, which is something that the secretary should be doing.

Mayor Gould:  It would help greatly the council if we knew how many hours the volunteers work.

Council Member Kelly:  My concern is I don't doubt that you have forty hours of work.  I'm not too sure on how we pay fire fighters for administrative work that Tim Dexter is responsible for and the administrator work that you are responsible for and how that is separated.  Is it good management to keep it separated?  Tim’s secretary helps the paid firefighters. 

Chief Joseph:  Tim Dexter has nothing to do with the volunteers.  We have two training officers.  One takes care of the entire department and the other is a training coordinator who takes care of the paid staff.  We have specialized training for staff and volunteers.  From last year to this year I am down seven volunteers and they are leaving in droves.  In 8 or 10 years we will not have volunteers.  They are asked to do mandated functions and it is getting to be too much for them.  I have just spent $2,500.00 on space saver file cabinets because I do not have the room for all the storage that is needed to keep the records that we have to maintain. 

 

Council Member Thompson:  I see no reason why developers can’t help pay for some stuff.

 

Mayor Gould:  The next thing is the fireboat.

 

Mayor Gould:  Newburgh has a fireboat.

Council Member Thompson:  And they are willing to share with us.

Chief Joseph:  Yes they will.  If we call on them under mutual aid, they will come

Council Member Thompson:  They told us emphatically that they would share with us.  They will share it, they will share it, they will share it.

Chief Joseph:  That's right.  Mutual aid will come to help if needed but it not there to be abused. 

Mayor Gould:  This discussion was with the mayor of Newburgh, not the firefighters.

Chief Joseph:  I can tell you this.  Under the mutual aid agreement, you can ask a department to help put out a fire but you cannot ask them to do it for you. If we are going to build a conference center, we are going to be responsible for the people who go out on that river.  We have to protect the people ourselves.  The boat will be operated by volunteers but the primary responsibility is the career staff.  My ultimate plan is to have a boathouse on the river.  The boundaries are set up by Dutchess County.  They do not necessarily follow town lines.  We are responsible for halfway into the river.  Newburgh is responsible for the other half. The previous history of incidents on the river is about one or two times a year.  This year there were six incidents.  We can’t wait until something happens; we have to be prepared.  The cost would be $250,000.00.  That would be the cost for the boat and the boathouse.  Chelsea has 20 or 30 million dollars worth of construction going on there and they got a new fire house and fire truck.  Dutchess Junction got a new firehouse.  Rombout got 1.3 million dollars out of Westgate to cover some of their costs.  Cole Brothers is negotiating with Rombout right now for a new firehouse and a new pumper.  All municipalities around us are getting funds from the developers to help pay for things.

Council Member Kelly:  Shouldn't we be talking to the Conference Center?  I feel as though we are missing the boat.

Mayor Gould:  A good first step is to meet and speak with Newburgh and discuss the particulars.

Council Member Thompson:  Wouldn’t this be an opportunity for the Sheriff's Department to help?

City Administrator, Joseph Braun: I would suggest that the easy part is the boat and the boathouse; the hard part is the staff.  If you have two of our paid firefighters out on the river and you call two people back in, during the interim hiatus, we would have to look at that closely to see how it affects the city's main goal which is to protect the city.  Regarding the Sheriff's Department - if they are doing Poughkeepsie’s waterfront, they should do our waterfront.  What I am hearing here is rescues and not fires.  I think this would be a great opportunity to say to the developer to give the boathouse to the Sheriff's Department.  If the Sheriff's Department is doing one foot of the Dutchess County waterfront, they should do every foot in the same fashion.

Chief Joseph:  We will be running a ferryboat every day dozens of times.  Something serious could happen on the river just as it did in Lake George

Further discussion and research will be done.

 

Re-painting @ Beacon Engine:  $6,490.00

 

City Administrator Braun:  We have a request to that the apparatus room, which is dire in need of paint now.  It was not budgeted.  They are asking that the money be appropriated to paint the bay at Beacon Engine Company and I absolutely agree.  I recommend that the money be appropriated:  This $6,490.00 is just a quote but it must go out for bid.

 

This will put on the agenda for July 2, 2007

 

Lee arrived at 8:25 p.m.

 

Comprehensive Plan Schedule

 

Mayor Gould:  Jerry, did you do the conservation advisory committee law?

City Attorney Pisanelli:  We are waiting for the Comprehensive Plan to be approved.  They submitted the open space part of it.  It needs to be accepted by the city.  I'm not sure that the has a consensus to make them a board.  If the council wishes to make them a board rather than a commission it will be done simultanously.

Council Member Gold:  That will cause another 30 days before it is issued.  Will it be a board instead of a commission?  I think we should do it.

City Attorney Pisanelli:  How are things proceeding with the Comprehensive Plan?

Mayor Gould::  The comprehensive plan still has to do transportation.  That will be in July.  One of things we have to do is to prepare a lead agency.

Council Member Kyriacou:  Has it gone to the planning Board?

Mayor Gould:  I thought they said that they had done that.

 

If this does not go on the agenda, it will go on the workshop.

 

Proposed Local Law - Conservation Advisory Commission – Jerry P. City Attorney will have Proposed Local Law.   See above.

 

DC Community Development Transfers - Letter from Audra dated 06/15/07

 

This will be placed on the Agenda for July 2, 2007.

 

DePuyster Rezone - David DeLeo request for rezoning DePuyster area (refused by both Planning and Zoning; he is militating for green building program)

 

Mayor Gould:  We had a request to rezone a part of DePuyster Avenue.  It was refused by both the Planning Board and the Zoning Board and the person who is requesting it is militating it.  I spoke to Chris and he said that it was also recommended in the Comprehensive Plan.

Attorney Pisanelli:  I think you might want to speak to the Planner.

Charlie Kelly:  He wants to make a one family into a two family and he wants to subdivide it put another two family in a one family zone.

City Attorney Pisanelli:  I would suggest that we wait until we have more information.  They want to subdivide to make two one families.

Council Member Kyriacou:  Why don’t we ask him to do two in-laws?

Mayor Gould:  We will get further information. 

Council Member Kelly:  I agree.  I don’t think we have enough information

 

More information and further discussion is required on this.

 

Resolution - “New York State Property Taxpayer Protection Act (Assembly Bill 8775).  See Attached.

 

Since the council did not review this, it will be tabled until they can review this and get more information.

 

Vacant Buildings - Documentation Previously distributed

 

City Attorney Pisanelli:  I need to get together with Tim Dexter to clear up some issues.

 

Inter-municipal and Regional Cooperation -

 

See attached Executive Order “Establishing the New York State Commission on Local Government Efficiency and Competitiveness.

See Attached email from Betsy Brockway along with attached Documentation “Hearings Scheduled on Local Government Efficiency and Future of New York’s Justice Courts”

 

Any Ideas?

 

Bus Shelter - Forrestal Heights: 

 

See attached email from J. Braun dated 6/13/07. Subject:     Bus Shelter

The Beacon Housing Authority has stated it does not want the bus shelter on its property. Since it is a legal matter and the City Attorney has a conflict, he recommends hiring an attorney to determine whether the City has the legal authority to place a bus shelter on Housing Authority property. I suggest you discuss this at an upcoming workshop.

 

Mayor Gould:  I contacted the Loop Bus to see if they would include Meadow Ridge.

Council Member Gold:  Perhaps they are looking for a new acting director.  The possibility exists that he may have a different point of view.

Council Member Kelly:  We can hire our attorney to try to approach them that we want to resolve this without litigation.  We have to know what our legal standing is before we sit down with their attorney.

Mayor Gould:  The Loop bus did not want to stop in the street.  They want to stop in a pull off lane. 

 

Sewer Responsibility -

 

See Joe’s e-mail dated 06/20/2007 as follows: - Councilman Kelly's description of a property on 9D that the NYS DOT failed to connect to the sewer back in the '80's highlights the potential need to amend the recently enacted local law to include sewer and water lines under the state highway.  That law only covers lines under a city street.  The 9D arterial is a state highway.  Thank you.  Signed:  Joe Braun, City Administrator.

 

City Administrator Braun:  The arterial should be added to the law.  It should say all city streets and the arterial.  We have a grant for federal and state funds to pay for this. 

 

First Reading will be at the July 2, 2007 council meeting.

 

Trane Proposal - Proposal for Heat Exchanger follows:

 

City of Beacon - Attention: Joe Braun / Zep Thomaselli

Opportunity ID: 384840

Project Name:  Beacon Municipal

 

As a result of a service call for no hot water due to low water level, Trane is pleased to offer you this proposal for performance of the following services:

Scope of Service

1)            Removal and disposal of existing heat exchanger.

2)            Provide and install new hot water heat exchanger.

3)            Verify proper operation.

Total Price.................................................................................................... $4,963.00

Notes:

1.                  Applicable taxes are not included and will be added to the invoice.

2.                  Any service not listed is not included.

3.                  Work will be performed during normal business hours

Thank you for giving us this opportunity. If you have any questions or concerns, please call me at (518)785-1315.

Best regards, Scott Miller, Account Manager

 

City Administrator Braun:  We need a hot water heat exchanger going through our heating system so we can have hot water.  This will not go out for bid because we have a service contract with this company.

 

Appointments / Ratifications /Announcement - Beacon 2009 Committee As City Committee:

-          Sara Pasti and Bob Murphy, co-chairs

-          Norman MacLeod

-          Ann MacLeod

-          Phyllis Keaton

-          Julann Cobb

-          Florence Northcutt

-          Clara Lou Gould

-          Jennifer Mackiewicz

-          Ron Iarossi

-          Kathy Halvey

-          Plus

 

These people meet regularly as a committee.  The other people regularly come  - They want to change from a committee to a board so they can raise funds and collect funds.

 

Melzingah Dam:

 

This has been around for so long.  Years ago, we did the dams for all the reservoirs One of the things that was left behind was that the DEC said that for safety reasons, the lower dam needed to be breeched.  We have to go for a permit.  We are at the stage where we need to complete the engineering have to get that done.  This is the engineering firm that we had since back in the nineties who provided all the work done on the dams.  This has to be done.  It's long overdue.  It will be done from the waterfronts.  If I can find some left over bond money, we can use the bond money.

 

This will be placed on the July 2, 2007 Agenda.

 

Update

 

Other Business

 

Upcoming Workshop Agenda Items -

 

Council Agenda Monday, July 2, 2007 

Police salary money into overtime

Repainting of Beacon Engine

Community Development unused funds

Correction Sewer Responsibility to add 9D

Proposal for heat exchanger

Beacon Street Sidewalks

 

Community Segment: Dawn Wilkins – Choices for Change

 

Executive Session

 

Workshop ended at 9:05 p.m.

 

 

Submitted by Lucy M. Cullinan - June 30, 2007