Workshop Minutes

City of Beacon Council Workshop Meeting

May 14, 2007

 

WORKSHOP

 

The City of Beacon Council Workshop Meeting held at the Municipal Center, One Municipal Plaza on May 14, 2007 began at 7:07

p.m.

 

In attendance were:

Mayor Clara Lou Gould

Council Members Present:  Lee Kyriacou, Liz Foster, Charles Kelly, Phil Shea, and Steve

Excused:  Eleanor Thompson

 

Also in attendance were:  City Administrator, Joseph Braun and City Attorney, Gerard Pisanelli.

 

AGENDA

 

Conservation Advisory Commission - See Document dated May 6th, 2007 submitted by Christopher Ericson, Chairman for the CAC.  Stormwater Runoff Committee

 

The following letter is from the City of Beacon Conservation Advisory Commission dated May 6, 2007 addressed to the City of Beacon Council Members

 

Dear Council Members:

As directed by the City Council, the Stormwater Runoff Committee has reviewed the proposed Stormwater Regulations.

General Comments

This is obviously a boilerplate type law that we were presented with. This law lacks substance that is specific enough towards the needs of the City of Beacon. One of the biggest questions is about the five acre number that keeps coming up. If this is based on a scientific fact that Stormwater management for areas under 5 acres is not necessary or cost effective, then we should trust that. However, if this is more like an arbitrary number, or a number based on the average size of development, then we need to scale it down for Beacon. After all, most city lots here aren't even a quarter of an acre. Someone needs to find this out before it's decided whether to stick with the five acre number or scale it back (and if so, to what size?)

Another important issue is the Stormwater Management Officer. Is the City really considering giving Tim Dexter yet another task? His duties with the City of Beacon, enforcing the building code, are more than enough responsibility, plus this is not his area of expertise. If the City is serious about this law, they will hire someone who has training, background, and experience in this area and who can focus solely on enforcing this law.

This law doesn't deal at all with problems that arise from people dumping their water onto their neighbors' property (such as roof runoff, or surface runoff from improperly graded sites). There appears to be major flooding problems because neighboring properties are routing water onto adjacent properties. Currently, there does not appear to be a way to hold land owners accountable for these problems. This should be added into the current law.

 

Christopher Ericson referred the council to his letter above dated May 6, 2007.  We feel that the enforcement of this law is very weak.  The $350.00 is too low.  The law as it is, applies mostly to five acre lots.  Most lots are 1/4 acre or less.   As for who will do the enforcement - we have already put stuff on the enforcement committee - We would recommend that this be done by someone who is in charge of stormwater - It could be a part time position.  That person would be dedicated to that program only.  The rest of my memo (not included above) reflects specific topics already discussed.  What needs to be done is that the law should be tailored to what we do.  As we see the amount of rain that we got in the last two weeks it will help in a positive way

 

Mayor Gould:  asked City Attorney Pisanelli regarding the size of the property in the law.

City Attorney Pisanelli:  Pro rate the suggestions made.

Mayor Gould:  You don't want to overload any code enforcement officer and it should not be split.  Training the career firefighters to inspect buildings is a brilliant idea. 

Chris: I believe that this needs to be explored a little bit more.  Some of this language as well as the definitions are vague.

Council Member Kelly:  In terms of qualifications of this person that you recommend - would that person have to be an engineer?

Chris:  I think an engineer is a good step.  That person needs to know how water flows and percolates, etc.  The acreage should definitely be reduced.

Council Member Kyriacou:  Will the 5 acres be new construction or pre-existing?

Chris:  Both

Council Member Kyriacou:  We need to be sure that we are not imposing on the requirements. 

Council Member Gold:  In a broad sense can we have an outline as to what needs to be done?  This could be put up on our website.

Chris:  I think that is possible.  (Chris was asked if he had the proposal.  He did not.)

At our next meeting, we will be working on public service announcements and education to the public.

City Attorney Pisanelli:  We need to ask the engineer and Tim Dexter to coordinate things.

Naomi:  (A commission member from the audience).  One of the things that we need to find out is why the five acres.  That is very important to find out.   I think we need a stormwater certified professional.

Chris:  We have to get more specific.

 

Mayor Gould:  We really appreciate all the research you and your commission have done.

 

University Settlement Camp - Use of Property / Buildings. Julann’s thoughts on possibilities.

 

The following email from Julann Cobb, Beacon Recreation dated May 11, 2007 was sent to City Administrator, Joseph Braun regarding University Settlement Project Review

 

Attached are my "worksheets" for reviewing the USC potential uses. It would be great if we can use these to come up with a collective view of what the facility is now and what the potential can be. If we can get this out to CC for everyone to add to before the meeting, that would be helpful.

First and foremost we need to establish what the intention is of acquiring the property and determining how it will benefit the community. That's more of a philosophical question, but it's very important that we find the common vision that everyone agrees to work from.

It's clear to me that whatever is chosen will require extensive long-term planning in which revenue potential will play a significant role. Even in the simplest terms of ownership as a "passive" recreational facility, the facility will cost a lot to maintain. While the costs of owning a passive use facility would be lowest year over year, the taxpayer's perceived value of the facility would be low in that most taxpayers do not appreciate a direct benefit through passive use. The trick will be to find the most reasonable balance between investment for the benefit of taxpayers' use, and investment for the benefit of generating revenue.

I think an important piece of the income puzzle will have to be economic development. Without too much change in our concept of what the space is for, we can combine serving the recreation needs of the community with the needs of our visitors. We can rent out the cabins, hold events that draw people in, cater to hikers/bikers by operating a hostel, be a center for arts and entertainment...there are so many things that the space naturally draws your mind to that can be explored.

My major concerns with acquiring this property, however, lie in what the facility does not provide. University Settlement Camp will not meet the needs of the city to have a Teen Center or a Senior Center. This is a issue for the City that needs to be addressed very soon. For either of those, accessibility is crucial and the need to drive to USC will be a significant deterrent. A Teen Center or Senior Center should be centrally located and easily accessible. (If I had to choose between USC and a Main Street Community Center Building, I would choose Main Street because of community need). Also, the isolated and dark location will be very inviting to misuse (not good Teen Center location). There will have to be a surveillance and security plan to protect the property and its users. The lack of adequate pathways and lighting will also reduce the number of usable hours of the facility and need to be addressed. A very significant upgrade that will have to be done will be to insulate and heat every building that is intended for use. Without that commitment at the very least to improving the facility, the facility is useless 2/3 of the year. And my biggest concern, of course, will be staffing on all levels to manage the facility—from clearing snow, to cutting grass, to teaching classes to the administrative

workload The City Council must be dedicated to appropriately staffing parks and recreation in order

for anything to be accomplished. All of the brainstorming and ideas will be pointless if we do not have the appropriate resources or staff to carry them out.

Hope all this is helpful. Julann Cobb

 

General recreation facility needs to consider and how USC can meet those needs:

Outdoors:

Multi-use fields

Space available, requires grading

Dedicated fields (specific to sport)

Space available, requires construction

Hiking

Access to Mt. Beacon Trails

Natural interpretive areas

Can be made part of the trails

Scenic access

Departure area via trails to Mt. Beacon

Picnic areas

Space available

Community gardens

Space available, requires preparation including deer protection

Bike paths

N/A

Waterfront access for boating and fishing

N/A

Passive recreational areas

Potential use of facility, especially connecting to Scenic Hudson property

Potential uses of Facility

Park (passive use

Least return on investment.  Does not generate revenue to meet operating costs.  The only way to reduce the burden on the tax payer is to keep operating costs as low as possible, risking adequate facility maintenance and care.

Resident-only Park & Recreation Facility

Programs are implemented to make the best use of the available space for recreation.  Revenue can be generated but potential number of users will probably not be significant enough to cover operating costs.  Taxpayer burden reduced by raising fees and minimizing operating costs.  Careful investment in developing the facility to meet community needs for services will provide more opportunities for programs and fee generation.

Open Park & Recreation facility

Same as above, with expanded programming to draw non-resident clients who pay slightly higher fees.  Program development would be more commercially competitive, and may require a slightly higher level of facility improvement over a resident-only facility if the goal is to increase the client base in order to generate more income.

Park, Recreation & Tourism

Same as above, with the added development of the facility and programming to serve as a destination for users/visitors/tourists.  Activities, events and entertainment become a large part of program development.  Largest potential for return on investment through direct receipt of revenue and indirect receipt of sales tax.

 

The following email from Council Member Kyriacou dated May 14, 2007 was addressed to the members of the Beacon City Council with a cc to Julann Cobb, Beacon Recreation regarding USC Brainstorming Project

 

For starters, I have three different concepts on shared uses for University settlement:

  Clearwater: Currently offices in Poughkeepsie, education classrooms in Esopus (Scenic Hudson owns), and winter facilities (incl. apt rental for winter crew) in Saugerties. Their long-term plan is looking for a single community to have all facilities. There are only a couple of communities that can have the sloop itself, and Beacon will be one of them, since the Beacon Institute dock is being designed for two ships: the research vessel at SUNY Stonybrook and the Clearwater. Beacon Institute already has a relationship with Clearwater for CW to do pre-college education in BI classroom on Dennings Point. It would be easy to get CW offices, classroom, sloop and winter dorm all in Beacon. USC could provide offices, classroom and winter dorm; CW could pay rent / upkeep. While I was on the Board of
CW, this issue was reviewed and received very positively. I know the Board President very well — she lives in Garrison — and she would be thrilled to begin a discussion.

  Hudson Valley Shakespeare Festival: Currently has tiny office in Cold Spring, needs lots of winter storage, rents dorms at Mt. St. Mary's for actors, does rehearsals in NYC, and uses Boscobel for performances. I spoke with the Board President (my wife has been on the board for over a decade), and they would be thrilled to discuss possibilities. These would include: dorms for actors in summer (maybe in a house?); office; rehearsals and performances in theater facility; storage; HVSF could pay rent / upkeep, and provide community performances.

  Beacon Institute: I spoke John Cronin, and he also was exceited about USC. BI is expanding and allying itself with an organization that is doing technology education. Possibilities include using USC for various educational purposes, summer programs, and the like. I did not have time with John yet to discuss the details.

Obviously we need to do a master plan for the facility and take some time to figure these out both in short-term and long-term.

 

Julann Cobb:  I am here to continue with the plans for this project.  Now is a good time for collecting the ideas and to  move on with what we will do with this property.  We have a couple of deadlines coming up.  The other side of the picture is the grants that are available.  We have six weeks before the deadline.  There is a lot of work that is to be done before we apply for the grant.  We also need to come up with a name that is specific to this project.

Council Member Kyriacou:  I would propose first for the immediate securing of safety and second, planning and community input.

City Administrator Braun:  In order to apply for a grant, we have to have some idea as to what benefit it will produce - It is not done simply by buying a piece of property.  The bottom line is that there has to be a value statement that we put on the application to get money.

Mayor Gould:  They also are known to give the grant for the planning stage.

Council Member Gold:  Regarding the grants, what Joe is saying is that there is a possibility we might be missing the opportunity of acquiring the grant.  We should ask our grant writer.  It makes sense to look at a grant for research.

City Administrator Braun:  In the case of Long Dock, they met certain criteria.  It was in sink with their mission.  This property has to be in sink with the mission.  It has to be a general statement such as this is a wonderful recreational resource.  We will fill in the blank spaces later on.  In general it is a wonderful recreational resource.  These things are obvious and can be a starting point.  We need some jumping off point.  There should be a community planning process

Council Member Kyriacou:  You might want to have shared ownership and operation with the county or town of Fishkill or both.  Will the consensus of the council be multi purpose rather than a public park?  Is the partnership-sharing concept be worth exploring?

Council Member Shea::  Let Susan tell us what is available.

City Administrator Braun:  We will meet with Susan and find out what is out there.  We will get it going.  We will find out what the questions are.  We need to understand that these folks are ready to go.

Council Member Kyriacou:  If we need it that quick, we should delegate it.  We want it to be multi purpose with many opportunities.  I would love to have public participants help us out.

Council Member Gold:  We should talk to Susan Brown to see what is available.

City Administrator Braun:  We will be in the process developing funding for the acquisition of this piece of property.  We will go forward and look for funding.  We are attempting to speak with the county.

Mayor Gould:  The council will work on coming up with a name for the project.

 

Vacant Buildings

 

City Attorney Pisanelli:  This was one of the things on my list but I didn't get to it.  Commercial buildings on Main Street. 

 

Domestic Partnerships  - J. Braun to check out NYC Policy and contact NYCOM.

 

City Administrator Braun:  I spoke to NYCOM (Mr. John Gallager) who said that there is nothing that he is aware of that is in the state's statue.  They have a procedure you go through if you want a domestic partner to have your health insurance.  You have a process if you want to establish that a domestic partnership exists and once you have done that you sign an affidavit then your partner can partake in the state health insurance.  The City will have to do an affidavit.  A domestic partnership has to be in effect if you are living together and sharing financial responsibilities.  This information I have goes into some detail and it also talks about terminating domestic partnerships.  They have been doing it since 1998.  We will get whatever law there is in the next month or so

 

Sewer/Water Lines

 

Mayor Gould:  Jerry gave us a draft of the resolution.  (Section 173-3(F) of Chapter 179 "Sewers" is renumbered as Section 179-3F(1) and a new subsection Section 179-3F(2) is added.)

 

City Administrator Braun::  This is something that we put together.  We talked about this for five years.  This provides for a payment, keeps it where it is now where the property owner will get a permit and verification from the superintendent that it was under the paved portion of the street and would establish the number of feet.  At the beginning of the year, we will have established a figure based upon historical cost - the average cost  per linear foot ,  Then we would pay  based upon linear foot  of water or sewer line that is under the paved portion of the street.  The average may be high or it may be low.  If the line is deep it will cost more or if it is shallow, it will cost less.   We will establish a standard based on the records that we have and also we will eatablish better records We will talk to contractors and come up with a price.  Once the process is in place we will collect the data as a part of that process.  We want to improve our data as much as we could.  We want to keep it simple.  We can do homestead or non-homestead.  This dicision is up to the council.  We will take out Single family residence at your request.

 

First Reading on the agenda for May 21, 2007

 

Spring Valley Street: 

 

Mayor Gould:  The insurance company said that they would not approve any damage because it was a nor-easter.  "Would that be covered by FEMA?

City Administrator Braun:   said that it probably is covered by FEMA.  The city is not responsible for an act of god.

Council Member Gold::  We are aware that there was a break.  The break had potential and did cause damage to this person's property.  Should the city be responsible for paying for this problem?  I think there is merit that the city should act responsibly.

City Administrator Braun:  It was the water levels that created the problem and not the city's sewer system  I think that if this if the city pays for this one then the city will have to do this for a lot of people.  FEMA has an 800 number and you can go on the FEMA website to get the number..

 

Resolution - Meritorious Service Awards – See Attached

 

City Attorney Pisanelli:  Made some recommendations for changes to the resolution.

 

Mayor Gould:  This will be put on the Agenda for May 21st 2007 with the changes.

 

Resolution - Main Street Center of Commerce and Tourism

 

Mayor Gould recommended some changes to this resolution

 

Council Member Foster::  We should meet with Captain Scofield to discuss this issue.  Putting the resolution out this way seems to be confrontational.

Council Member Gold:  I think the resolution is better but I am not opposed to meeting with Capt. Scofield.

Council Member Foster:  I think that we should give Capt Scofield a change to address this.

Council Member Kyriacou:  We already spoke to them.  I do think that we should have a resolution to have something on the books.  The police can provide a procedure on how to do this.

Mayor Gould:  This resolution is too specific.  It is not setting policy but it is telling them what to do

Council Member Foster:  .I would like to see a specific plan.

Council Member Kelly:  We have good leadership in the Police Dept and I would like to keep that positive relationship.  It doesn't hurt to have the Capt here.

City Administrator Braun:  He is the community officer and has important knowledge and understands what needs to happen on Main Street.  There should be dialogue.  He will be here to do the community segment at the May 21st Meeting and will be able to answer a lot of our questions.  He has been involved with. most of the things mentioned here.  He instituted the bike patrol.

Mayor Gould:  If there is not time for him to answer questions, we can ask him to a workshop.

City Administrator Braun:  There is a lot more to that story.  Bike patrol stopped because of the money.

Council Member Gold:  I think we have a good plan so let's go forward.  It would be a good idea to discuss overtime.

City Administrator Braun:  It cannot be done for nothing.  It will cost money.

Council Member Kyriacou:  I would like the Capt Scofield to give us the options.

 

Special Use Permit - Accessory Apartment – 9 Aldridge Place – Applicant:  Timothy Joseph. Set Public Hearing for June 4, 2007.

 

This will be put on the Agenda to set public hearing for June 4, 2007.

 

Special Use Permit  - Amend Existing Special Use Permit – Modify Apartment Layout – 463 Main Street – Applicant Anthony Fox and Paul Queley. Set Public Hearing for Monday June 4th.

 

This will be put on the Agenda to set a public hearing for June 4, 2007.

 

Special Use Permit - Wireless Communication Facility – One Forrestal Heights – Applicant OmniPoint Communications. (subsidiary of T-Mobile). Set Public Hearing for Monday June 4th.

 

Hiddenbrooke  Authorize Appraisal.  Requires two appraisals.

 

Council Member Braun:  The grant for NYS Office of Parks, Recreation and Historical Preservation  requires two independent appraisals.  Mr. Pete Hubbell is a person who is independent.  The appraisal fee is 5,000.00.  We will acqure $350,000.00

Council Member Gold:  Because of changes to Hiddenbrooke, it prohibited any residential building.  Does an appraiser understand enough on water management, ski slopes and wetlands.  Would this negate any possibility of any residential buildings?  I want to find out if the value of this land is to simply send in an appraiser who hasn't though of these things.

Council Member Braun:  I will suggest that to the appraiser.  Because he does work in Dutchess County and has done all those things, I would think he does know.  I will also ask the city engineer to look at this.  I think this is a point well taken.

Mr. Gebmann asked for and was given permission to speak and give some information  The council asked that Mr. Gebman put it in writing and give it to the council.

 

Mayor Gould:  Authorizing the appraisal will be on the agenda for May 21, 2007

 

Appointments / Ratifications /Announcement

 

Beacon Engine Company, No. 1  Remove Anthony Fraioli from Active Rolls to Social.

 

This will be placed on the May 21, 2007 Agenda.

 

Update:

 

Other Business  Wellness in the workplace This will be put on the budget amendments May 21, 2007

 

The following is an email regarding this is program received from Etha Grogan and Kim Antalek dated May 14, 2007, addressed to City Administrator, Joseph Braun:

 

First, we want to thank you for obtaining pedometers from PERMA to initiate our first Walking Program for city employees and their families. The program has been well received because to date a total of 45 members have registered and received pedometers. To continue the momentum, we would like to provide small incentives to encourage everyone to complete the program. Attached please find details on what we feel will provide support needed to make our first attempt at creating a healthier work environment a success.

We hope Council will positively consider funding for this important endeavor because the benefit of exercise far outweighs the cost in several ways. Employees will become more aware of their health and the importance of remaining active. Over 60% of adults do not achieve the recommended amount of exercise and this program is designed to make employees more aware of their own physical activity. This program is the first step toward improving habits that will decrease the City's health insurance costs in the long term. The program has already created a friendly competition among employees. More importantly the benefit of promoting a "team" environment is immeasurable.

We are aware that these expenses were not included in the 2007 budget and respectfully request a new line item be created for the Wellness Program. A start up amount of $500 will provide sufficient funds to start the program this year. Please consider a transfer in the amount of $500 from A9060-840000 - Health Insurance into a new line item A9060-840500 - Employee Wellness. If you have any questions or require further information feel free to contact us. Thank you for your consideration.

 

The following is a description of the program:

 

CITY OF BEACON WELLNESS WALKING PROGRAM 

It is time for the City of Beacon to get serious about Wellness in the Workplace. We are willing to begin and follow through a Wellness Program.   The easiest to begin with is a Walking Program.

We have received information from MVP/Preferred Care website to give us the tools to begin the program, however, we would need some funds. We are estimating $500 for the first year. This will allow us to purchase pedometers for employees who join the walking program, incentive gifts to give to the top teams or to all employees who complete the weekly program. We have received pricing for 50 pedometers for $175.00. The remaining monies would be used to purchase incentive gifts.

The Walking Program will be 6 weeks long and each participant will have to register and will receive a pedometer, a walking log and a weekly step form to hand in each week.  At the completion of the program, we plan on giving the successful participants a give (water bottle, t-shirt or similar).

At the end of the program, we will evaluate the participation and if successful, we/will continue with another program, maybe 10 weeks or longer.

This will be the beginning of a Wellness Program for the City of Beacon/In the future, and with an increased budget, we would be able to host a Wellness Fair, Smoking Cessation Program and possibly other great programs.

 

The Walking Program will be 6 weeks long and each participant will have to register and will receive a pedometer, a walking log and a weekly step form to hand in each week. At the completion of the program, we plan on giving the successful participants a gift (water bottle, t-shirt or similar).

 

Council Agenda - Monday, May 21, 2007

Hearing Vehicle and Traffic

Community Segment: 

Glenn Scofield, Captain – Police Department

Sewer Water Lines\

Awards

Special Use permits

Appraisals

 

Motion to enter into Executive Session at 9:28 p.m.:  Council Member Kelly.  Seconded:  Council Member Gold.  All voted in favor.  Motion carried.

 

Motion to end Executive Session at 9:40 p.m.:  Council Member Shea.  Seconded:  Council Member Foster.  All voted in favor.  Motion carried.

 

Workshop ended at 9:40 p.m.